MSN Careers

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Staci Bell: Hello everyone and welcome to the University of San Francisco online Masters of Science in Nursing webinar presentation. Today’s topic focuses on MSN careers. Now before we get started I’d like to go over some logistics. First of all you are in listen only mode, meaning that to ask questions you will need to type your questions into the que in the question and answer box provided on your screen. You will also be able to obtain copies of the webinar slide and obtain a recording of the webinar. This webinar will be emailed out to you as soon as it becomes available.

Alright now going over today’s agenda we’re going to start off today by introducing you to your support team, as well as your faculty panelists. And then we’re going to go over the MSN program and how the CNL applies to this program, or Clinical Nurse Leader. We’re then going to run through a curriculum overview and then of course go right into our focus of the webinar which is the MSN careers. We’re also going to go over some practicum facts which is part of your program requirements and show you where to go to get some questions answered on financial aid.

We’ll then take you into the admission requirements for the program and then we’ll conclude with the Q&A session where you’ll be able to have all of your questions answered.

And to introduce myself my name is Stacy Bell. I’m one of your enrollment advisors for the program. Some of you may have spoken to me over the phone or will speaking to me over the phone. I’ve been working in high education for the past six years particularly focusing on health care programs and more recently focusing solely on nursing. And then I’m joined today with my colleagues Pamela Rocha. Hi Pamela.

Pamela Rocha: Hi good afternoon this is Pamela. I am also an enrollment advisor for the School of Nursing. I’ve been working in the medical arena for college admission for the past six years. Five of those six years to date I’ve been in the nursing arena. So I’m very comfortable with the details and look forward to working with each of you.

Stacy Bell: And the next individual that you’ll see is Adrian Nesbeth I just wanted to take a moment just to introduce him, even though Adrian is not on the call today, I wanted to introduce you to who will become your student advisor, if you are a student with us. He is the one that walks you through your academics you’re entire time you are a student. He checks in with you on a regular basis to help ensure your success as a student. And then we’re joined today with our faculty panelists. Dr. Enna Trevathan. Hello Enna?

Dr. Enna Trevathan: Yes, hi. Hello everyone I’m Dr. Trevathan and I am the program director and I also teach in the program. I have a very vast knowledge of the Clinical Nurse Leader program in our MSN program here at the University of San Francisco. And I was one of the people that helped develop one of the leadership programs at the VA Palo Alto, which is one of our service partnerships that we have in the bay area. And my backdoor project was the implementation of the on-line to MSN program onsite at that institution. So I want to welcome all of you.

Pamela Rocha: Thank you so much Dr. Trevathan so just to give you a little bit of a glimpse into our program offerings. Our online MSN program is 100% online, you’re able to complete your course work online and perform your clinical internship in a work setting close to home. This is going to allow you to continue excelling in your career. We are a-synchronist. Meaning that you don’t need to be online at a certain time on a certain day. You also would not have to attend live lectures. This program is designed for associate’s degrees as well bachelor degree nurses. You’re able to complete the program in as few as two years. If you’re coming in with your BSN. Or approximately two and a half years with your associates degree in nursing. We are accredited by the Western Association of Schools and Colleges, the California Board of Registered Nursing and the Commission on Collegiate Nursing Education.

We’re also named one of the best nursing grad schools of 2012 by US News and World Report. Now just to touch a little bit on the benefits of the online MSN program. The largest number of clinical nurse leader certified faculty members in the country including clinicians, managers, practitioners and executives. There are multiple layers of support with your enrollment advisors and your program coordinator, which Staci had spoken to a little bit earlier. And you can benefit from small class sizes while networking and developing deep relationships with fellow students and staff.

Staci Bell: Now, some important information on the certification associated with our program, regarding the Clinical Nurse Leadership aspect. Dr. Trevathan can you talk to everyone a little bit more about what this title is all about and just a little bit about what is the role of the Clinical Nurse Leader entails?

Dr. Enna Trevathan: Sure and let me add that the Clinical Nurse Leader is an additional certification that you obtain that you sit for after you have obtained your masters in nursing science. As a clinical nurse leader you are involved in designing, implementing and evaluating patient care. The CNL is very well trained to help coordinate yet delegate even the delegation is something the people usually think that the manager or the assistant manager does. But a Clinical Nurse Leader can do all that. The Clinical Nurse Leader also supervisors the care provided by the health care team, including licensed nurses, nurse technician, nursing assistant and other health care professionals. The Clinical Nurse Leader really functions at the point of care, wherever that may be, maybe at the bedside it may be at the community, it may be in the clinic. The Clinical Nurse Leader may focus on one patient or may focus on a group of patients especially if you’re looking at CHF population for example. And the Clinical Nurse Leader is put in all kinds of healthcare settings.

There are lots of Clinical Nurse Leaders that work at the chronic care management program for example. Or they may work in a stroke clinic. Let’s go to the next slide, in addition the Clinical Nurse Leader does not have to be an administrator. Now by having the MSN degree it can allow Clinical Nurse Leaders, somebody with a certification as a Clinical Nurse Leader to also function as the manager or assistant manager. So the whole thing about this program is to have that leadership training. And that leadership training helps you to integrate with other advanced nursing roles. Such as working with the CNS, and we know that CNS is usually work with a particular population, let’s say if they may be in oncology nursing. Where the CNL is an advanced generalist and we could work across any borders or any area or any unit within nursing.

We are advanced master’s prepared advanced generalists. Like I stated before, we could work just about anywhere. We could work in ambulatory care; we could work in specialty clinics. We could work in private practices, hospitals, in the education department and even work as managers or directors. Now I want to make it clear that he CNL itself is something we sit for, it is not part of the degree. The degree that you obtain is the Masters in Nursing Science. But by the preparation that you receive from this program, before you even graduate you can sit for the certification exam. So for more information we have that online information system. And you can look at that for more information than what I’m giving you.

So when we look at the next slide, I will go over a little bit about our curriculum overview. Now our program is designed to sit both the AVM prepared nurse and also the Bachelors prepared nurse. The AVM prepared nurse has a few more classes that they would need to take before they could get to the level of the BSN. Now all the courses that the AVM or the BSN take in our program are considered all graduate level work. So for example the foundation courses are AVM needs to take the graduate writing and research to prepare you for the academic life that you will be facing for the next seven semesters, while you go into this program. And also to prepare you to get ready for graduate work, you would take the transition to Clinical Nurse Leader education. Another course that the BSNs already have that AVM would need to take is the community health nursing and community health nursing practicum. What that class does for you is to prepare you for the PHN. So after you take this course and when you graduate you will qualify to have, not only your regular RN from the board of nursing but you would also qualify as a public health nurse. The next level of courses are part of the foundation and this is when our AVN and our BSN students, they start to comingle then they start forming one cohort is the foundation in CNL leadership.

And also we’ll start looking at assessment of course the last plan, the next level of assessment. We knew you already have assessment as an AVM or BSN. But the program does require that you take an advanced assessment course to prepare you for dealing with all sorts of patients. It is assessment the lifespan of course because it covers adult, it covers geriatric and it also covers pediatric. And the next course in the foundation and the last one of the foundation courses is the CNL Role: Introduction. When we introduce you to the CNL world itself and for everything else to come, during the time that you would be taking all of those courses with us and heading towards your MSN. So some of the core courses that we’ll cover is epidemiology and population statistics.

The next thing is advanced patho and pharmacology, I know most of you have heard about the ‘Three P’s’ and most of our accreditation bodies require that we cover the ‘Three P’s” WASC requires it, AACN requires it and CCNE requires it. And the ‘Three P’s’ are Pathophysiology, Pharmacology and the advanced assessment class, you know we have to have those included. The next course that you would cover is nursing inquirery. Being able to understand how to analyze evidence based practice projects or articles. How do you rate the evidence? How do you rate some research that has been done? And how do you use that information to be able to apply it in your practice? You will learn that in that course.

Since I talked about Clinical Nurse Leadership, and the next class, the Health Care system leadership is very important of our program. It is like the backbone of our program. You learn how to apply system leadership at the micro-system, the mezzo-system and the macro-system. And also all of our graduates are required to take the financial research management because the focus of our program when we start looking at how we’re going to be able to apply changes in the health care arena, we also need to look at how does the financial management work. We look at quality, we look at the changes that would make our patients better, can send them home in one piece. Or maybe add a little bit of something better to their lives because we understand the assessment role, we understand our leadership role. But we also have to understand how we affect cost. If we are making changes in the health care system, it’s going to effect the cost, it may be a higher cost, it may be a lower cost, what we try to do is try to effect change that is of high quality and also could cost less. So that’s something else that you would be learning in this program.

We also need to understand health care policy and ethics. To be able to apply what we learned and the changes we’re going to apply in an ethical manner. We’ll also understand policies across the state level, the county level and also at the federal level. Another course that is coming into play these days in any program that you would be looking at is health care informatics. We know these days we cannot get away from using a computer, or using different types of software, so it is very important that we’re able to navigate in that arena. The other additional courses are the CNL role courses that teach you to be a patient educator, how to be a team manager and team leader, because a lot of times the CNL is the one that is heading the interdisciplinary team meetings. And also looking at clinical outcome manager, so of all the stuff that you’re learning financial management, population statistics and patho and pharmacology you are going to learn how to apply all of that information and get the best clinical outcome for your patients.

At the end of the program the last two courses that you’ll be taking will be the capstone courses and it’s the CNL Role synthesis, where you are learning how to take all the information that you’ve obtained for the past six semesters and you’re going to learn how to apply them. You’re going to have a final project that you will be undertaking and to be able to show that you could be able to apply everything that you’ve learning and affect the change either at the unit level or where you work or it could be at another institution. So this is where you’re going to show us how you’ve been able to apply what you’ve learned.
So we’ll go to the next slide.

So for us the Masters of Science in Nursing careers. So you know, you remember when you applied to be a nurse when you wanted to be a nurse, whether you have a two year degree or you have a four year degree. What you wanted to do was to be able to help the patients. You wanted to make this world better in the health care arena. So I’m here to tell you that the Master’s degree would help you even better in a significant way. A master’s degree would help you provide better health care outcomes you will know how to apply system changes. It will also ensure that each patient get adequate care along with the growing deficit of physicians. You know we know, and even as of this week there’s been a lot of reports that came out that stated that there are not enough physicians to take care of all the patients and ones that the health care reforms get to be applicable. So as the Clinical Nurse Leader you would be at the forefront to be able to identify problems within the system. And we’ll be able to suggest solutions to problems that we’ve come across at the health care system level. It could be in your local clinic, it could be in the community or it could be at the hospital. You will be well trained to implement institutional changes that would make the health care world a lot better for our patients.

You’ll also be able to affect the care of many patients by improving the delivery system itself. How do you deliver the care? It is being looked at now that most of the care is going to be provided in ambulatory care arena, or at the community level. So you’ll be very well prepared to do that with the Masters in Nursing Science and with the certification in the CNL.

Let’s go to the next slide, ok so we know, nurses are in high demand. We don’t have enough physicians to take care of all those patients. And in order for us to be able to take care of all these patients, it is required that we have a certain level of educated nurses to be able to take on the additional roles that we would need to play. As we can tell the US Bureau of Label Statistics, projects that job openings for RN from 2010-2020 will be approximately 1.2 Million, and the US department of Human and Health services or HHS predicts that there is an influx of eight hundred thousand by 2020. We do know that most of our nurse’s average age is in the mid-50s. So there’s going to be a lot of people that are going to be retiring and we’re going to need a lot more nurses that are well educated in order for us to take on and deal with that demand. So if we had more educated nurses in the work place, the US could save billions of dollars each year. Masters level nurses if we work at the highest level of our scope of practice we can really make a difference in the health care arena, and we really could make a difference in health care reform.

Advanced generalists especially in that this is the program that we offer at the University of San Francisco are in very high demand, and the demand is only going to increase as we go along and the health care reform is being implemented.

And also one of the areas that are being looked at are the medically underserved areas. Where we have a high level population of geriatrics, for example or we may have the farm workers area, or we may have underserved populations like people that are diabetic population. So all of these areas are areas that are in demand that we would need more educated nurses to be able to serve and to be able to take care of those health care needs.

So let’s see what else we have. So by having a Master’s of Science in Nursing and to me I really make a difference the more degrees that I’ve obtained in my nursing career I’ve seen my salary just doubled and tripled over time. So according to the US Bureau of Label Statistics the medium amount of salary for an RN is $64,690 in May 2010. So it’s all depends on where you live, right because we’ve taken this number for all across the United States. RN salaries tend to flatten when nurses are positioned for more than ten years. Nurses we usually try to move around we usually try to start as a nurse one, we try to go to a nurse two, nurse three and nurse four depending the institution where you work. And usually to move to those positions as a nurse three and nurse four these days it does require that we have and advanced degree at least a Masters. And some of them even require a doctorate degree. So for 2011 Advanced for Nurses survey states that RNs with specialty certification earn about $7.36 more per hour and that’s in addition to your Masters in nursing.

Nurses who have masters in nursing degree can expect a salary between $60,000 and $90,000 upon graduation. And here in the bay area in California most of our nurses start in the higher level, between $80 to $90,000 a year. CNLs these days are reporting an annual salary these days around $80,000. So from $80 -$90,000 this is where CNLs usually start. Some hospitals, like the higher health care systems for example, offer bonuses to nurses who want to continue their education. So you might want to take a look at your institution and see what they offer, even if they don’t offer anything, but this is for your own good and your own betterment. It might be worth-while to have that Master’s degree to better position you for the future.

Next slide? Ok, so a lot of you might be thinking and asking what would a Masters of Nursing Science get me. There are lots of different titles, a lot of different jobs and positions they don’t all have the same names. Some institutions do call them Clinical Nurse Leaders some of them do not call it Clinical Nurse Leaders but use the same information and the same job description that is also shows for care managers, clinical care coordinators, patient educators, nurse managers, assistant nurse manager, patient care coordinator, you also can qualify for a job in risk management or quality management and also case managers. So all of these positions by having that Masters in Nursing Science help you to position and apply for anyone of those listed positions.

Ok now Staci is probably going to help take us to the next segment.

Staci Bell: Absolutely, thank you so much Dr. Trevathan and you know it’s really helpful, I think for the students to get some concrete examples of some of the ways that students are applying this degree. And as far as, another thing we should really transition to now, a really important topic with our program is the practicum. As an enrollment advisor, I do receive a lot of questions and I know Adrian, the student advisor does as well, since he works with the students throughout that time. Do we choose our site as a student and our own preceptors specifically or is it chosen for us? That’s the first question I often receive.

Dr. Enna Trevathan: well the best answer to that is that the student chooses where he/she wants to go. I think its best that way and its even best for the students to choose and to have their practicum at their place of employment. Or they may want to go to another institution for example if that institution that they would like to work for in the future. So if a student chooses their places for the practicum it’s a better fit instead of us choosing the practicum place for the student. And we are very happy to help support the student. If they don’t have any practicum sites in mind. We have a list of places sometime depending on the area where the student is that we could suggest where they can go.

Staci Bell: Thank you so much and the second question I received is who is the agency contact onsite and on campus to help us facilitate whether or not we can find a preceptor, in other words who do I contact to get that established as a student?

Dr. Enna Trevathan: Well, there are two ways to go, so we have our school and we also have the institution that the student might be interested in. So to start with, if a student has a particular institution they are interested in they would need to find out who is the person who can open the door for them to be able to do their practicum. For example: it’s usually someone in the nursing education arena. So they might have a nursing education department, and whoever is the director or the coordinator of that office is usually the person who can open the door and say yes we could accept you for practicum, yes we could help make this available for you. And also they would know whether they have a contract with us or partnership with USF. And if they don’t have a partnership with us we would be happy to get the paperwork going and establish a partnership with them. On the other side form the university side, we have a clinical placement coordinator and we also have an online coordinator and also myself, who get involved in the process to help a student coordinate a practicum.

Staci Bell: Thank you so much, now is there any help available when I can’t find a site? That’s a big question that we get students want to know if they’re out of state, let’s say I’m a student in New Jersey, are there people I can go to for resources if I reach a hurdle along the way?

Dr. Enna Trevathan: Absolutely. We can definitely make suggestions of where the students can go. And there are some states where we already have some pre-established partnerships, so we would be happy to provide that list where we already have some established partnership. If we do not have established partnership in a particular city, we can help the students establish that. If the student is in a community and for example they want to do their health assessment course for example, and there is a community clinic and they want to establish a partnership there or they think have some interest in going there, we can work with the students and we can help work with that agency to establish that. And if a student may have certain interests and want to ask us some questions about which way to go, we are available to answer any of those questions. And we have a clinical placement coordinator that would be very happy to help with that, and so would your online coordinator. And we also have a legal team that helps establish the partnership and the memo of understanding for our students.

Staci Bell: Thank you so much, so can we choose our place of employment as our site?

Dr. Enna Trevathan: Absolutely it is best, and the reason that I said, that’s best is because whatever the student is learning today, they could take that knowledge and apply it at their work site tomorrow. So it’s a great way to practice what you’re learning. And it’s also if you decided to stay at your work place, it’s a great way to get recognition very quickly. Because once you start establishing that relationship and that rapport with other nurses, your manager and other disciplinary team members, you start receiving recognition for being able to assess your place of employment, your unit, and start making changes. Small changes at a time. But whatever you learn today you could apply tomorrow, so your place of employment to me is the best place to start.

Staci Bell: Thank you and is our preceptor or our advisor required to be a Clinical Nurse Leader is that important?

Dr. Enna Trevathan: Well it is great, if there is the Clinical Nurse Leader in your particular institution, but that is not a show stopper, so what we’re learning mostly is nursing leadership. So a student may do their practicum and choose a preceptor who may be a charge nurse, it could be a CNS, it could be a Nurse Anesthetist, it could be a risk manager, care manager, case manager it could be anyone of those nursing positions. It could be a nursing director, depending on what the student is learning that particular semester. So not having a clinical nurse leader available, is not a show stopper. That is something that you learn additionally and you would learn how to apply what you’re learning and you learn those skills.

Staci Bell: Thank you and our final question is where can I find more information on the practicum?

Dr. Enna Trevathan: Well we have a whole packet that we have designed that we can send to any student that requests it. We have all the objectives for each one of the clinical roles courses that requires the practicum. So we’ll be able to provide that information once those students take a look at the objectives and this whole packet that we put together. It has information about choosing a site the forms that needs to be completed. If we need establish partnerships with a new site. And it has information about each one of the course what the objectives are that they could share with a possible preceptor, and we’re also available to answer any questions once they read the information and have more questions for us. We would be happy to answer those.

Staci Bell: Thank you Dr. Trevathan now transitioning over to another important topic, is financial aid. Financial aid is something that even though you’re not able to really fully have an award letter or be packaged until after you are accepted into the program, there’s a lot of things that you can do to prepare in advance to make this process as smooth as possible. And the first thing you can do is the FASFA. Which is the federal application for financial aid you can go to the link that you see there, well actually as enrollment advisors we can email this to you at any time after you would like to take a look at our program we’ll send you that link, and also the school code which is 001325, you just put that into, once you fill out your financial aid application you’ll populate the school code, add us as a school and then you’ll be fully prepared for when you are accepted to the program, you’ll be contacted by financial aid and they’ll be able to take care of you a lot after. So you can start working on that process now. Now the best place to find more information is at the websites that we’ve provided there in the webinar. And again remember we are sending you a copy of this recording as soon as it becomes available. We also encourage students to contact or email student accounts at the number listed below. And if you have any more general questions you can always follow up with your enrollment advisor.

Now going over admission requirements, how do I get accepted into your program? the first thing as far as the admission criteria, is you need to either have a bachelor’s degree in nursing or an associate’s degree in nursing from an accredited university as far as documentation you’ll need to provide us with both a copy of unofficial as well as official transcripts. And the reason being is that the unofficial transcripts you will upload to your online application. That’s a lot more instant and then we can start working on a decision prior to your officials arriving, so it’s very important get those copies of the unofficial first and upload those to your online application. Your GPA that we’re looking for, we are looking for a GPA of 3.0 or higher, now occasionally students have been accepted based on other criteria if they are looking at the overall strengths on your application. So if you do have questions or concerns about your GPA please follow up with your enrollment advisor.

You will also need to provide us with two letters of recommendations; these will be from current employers or a person preferably in a supervisory role who has witnessed your work, so these are professional recommendations. It can also be academic references; these should not be colleagues or personal references. You’ll also upload a copy of your resume. As well as a copy of your RN license. The reason you’re uploading your license is it’s also required not only that you have your nursing degree, but that you’re actively licensed in the United States while you are in this program. You will also upload a copy of your personal statement or a statement of goals is a typically one page essay highlighting your intentions for why your seeking this degree. This is where you talk about your motivation for seeking this MSN program, what your specific goals are and how this degree is going to help you achieve that goal. And TOEFL scores are only needed if you are not a US citizen or a permanent resident.

Ok so now we’re going to transition over, hoping that a lot of you guys have been typing in your questions and Pam is going to go ahead and start reading off one of the questions here. And then we’ll go ahead and start feeding them to you, if necessary Dr. Trevathan, is that ok?

Dr. Enna Trevathan: Ok. Sounds great.

Pamela Rocha: So we got a question from Lauren, she is asking if you begin the program with an associate’s degree will you also learn a bachelor’s degree. Lauren this is a bridge program so you would begin in the continuation of your associate’s education through your bachelor’s degree and then you would earn your masters of science in nurse’s education. So there will not be a bachelor of nursing degree earned but you will meet the equivalent of through the completion of your masters.

Staci Bell: Another question I’m seeing, if an AVM also has a bachelors as well as some graduate creds in another field is that taken into consideration when reviewing the application for needed credits. Yes they’re taken into consideration, however this program is already a very abbreviated bridge program where you’re taking courses, there’s not a lot of credits that are necessary for this program so therefor if you do have a bachelors in another field, of course that will be taken into consideration, however there are no guarantees that there is anything that will be utilized, and that’s because specifically an AVM to MSN as well as a BSN to MSN bridge, is that right Dr. Trevathan?

Dr. Enna Trevathan: that’s right, this program is specifically designed so sometimes we may be able to accept one course or two courses but that has to be evaluated on a case by case basis, but it is not a guarantee we would be able to accept those courses, if it doesn’t fit into our program.

Pamela Rocha: Ok thank you, now we do have another question form Danielle. With regards to the opportunity to start the program, yes we do have three starts a year, we have spring, summer and fall. Spring courses begin in January, summer begin in May excuse me and fall classes begin in August. So you are able to start the program three different times per year. So what I’d advise you do if you have not spoken to an advisor already our telephone number is at the bottom of the screen. Call our office and we would be happy to share those dates with you and help you get prepared in advance to start moving toward your masters.

Ok another question, if someone has a bachelor’s degree in another field is the writing class requirement fulfilled?

I do think we kind of addressed that. There would need to be an evaluation of previous education earned, previous courses taken and then a determination would be made, based off of where you earned the course, what course it was, what your grade earned was? So it’s very subjective, but there isn’t an automatic opportunity to have granted transfer credit.

Staci Bell: Here’s a questions from a student that is interested in public health about, as far as if I’m seeking a career in public health as a nurse bout looking to get a generalist degree, how can this degree help me achieve that Dr. Trevathan could you shed some light on that please?

Dr. Enna Trevathan: Right, it all depends on the position that the position may be applying for. If you get your PHN after completing the population assessment and the committee assessment class you qualify to apply for your license as a Public Health Nurse. Now if somebody wants to continue and wants a specific degree, a master’s in public health, this degree is not a master’s in public health. So it is a generalist degree, it’s a masters in science of nursing so if somebody wants to go strictly public health they may need additional courses from a public health program. And not the generalist degree, but by having the PHN and having a Masters in Science you can qualify for a public health nursing position. But you would have to take a look at the job posting itself and see if they require a Master’s in public health or the public health nursing certificate and just a Masters in Nursing Science. So it all just depends on the institution.

Pamela Rocha: Now another question that a student has here is, are we able to utilize a nurse practitioner in the clinic setting or a PA for our preceptor?

Dr. Enna Trevathan: You’re definitely could use a nurse practitioner for the PA it’s a little bit different because a physician’s assistant which is the PA works different and the discipline is different. So we will have to look at the setting and look at what the course is that the student is undertaking that particular semester and what they have to learn that semester. Now if the student is trying to learn how to be a Clinical Nurse Leader, or a Nurse Leader in general, that may not work but if it’s a course where it is for example it’s the community assessment course, yes we can definitely work with a PA, we could work with a physician or a physician assistant. So we would have to evaluate that and we would have to evaluate the setting. But for the world classes it is best that the student have a nurse to be able to do that, because different discipline.

Pamela Rocha: Great, thank you so much. Now we received a question in the Q&A section Alyssa was asking if we know if this specific program is legitimate in New York state. Alyssa just to clarify the program is accredited by the National Accrediting body, for education. We’re also approved by the Nursing accrediting bodies. So our program would be recognized fully throughout the United States. I think what you’re probably wondering is does the state of New York allow you to complete this degree. They do have specific criteria, and they also, amongst other states, have restrictions against students taking online programs with regards to their practicums being conducted in their particular state. To the best of my knowledge there is no restriction in the state of New York. There are in a few other states. But I see no problem with this curriculum path or this program for your particular interest from that state.

Staci Bell:
Ok another question is centered around cost a student wants to know more about the tuition for the program. And while it’s impossible to know exactly the program would be per month the program is $1,130 per credit hour. However because it is a bridge program and the way we format it is you will only need to take between 35 to 46 credits to complete the program. That means there are no pre-requisites no additional courses no additional program fees. This would average anywhere from about a $39,000 to about a $59,000 program depending on the amount of credits that you would need.

Ok, and now there’s another question about, can I choose a specific focus later on if I decide to do this degree? Does the CNL limit my options? Dr. Trevathan are you able to shed some light on whether or not this degree would limit a student’s options if they want to choose another focus in the program later on?

Dr. Enna Trevathan: Well our focus in the program is the Masters in Science of Nursing, so our leadership program which is comparable to any other Masters in Nursing Science, across the board across any other university. It’s just that the role courses are leadership focused it really prepares you as a leader. Either at the unit level or for the management level, so which is pretty similar to any other Masters in nursing program. Now if someone decides later on they want to pursue a doctorate in nursing practice, for example. Or they want to become MSNP all of those courses at the masters level are transferable to any other of those programs. So there’s no description, our focus is a generalized Masters in Science of Nursing. So I’m not sure if I’m answering the student questions, we don’t have any other focus, we don’t have the CNS. And if somebody wants to become a Clinical Nurse Specialist and that is a very narrow focus and that’s all they would do. And usually they’ll have to go to University that offers only that one focus. It may be a Clinical Nurse Specialist in oncology or a Clinical Nurse Specialist for Stroke for example. So those are specialty focuses, and only a few Universities offers that, or Masters in Nursing Science is very generalist and if you want to focus and take a certificate later on in a specialty area you definitely can do that, and all those courses are acceptable. Then you can do a certification additional to that if you decide to get a specialty focus.

Staci Bell: So, Dr. Trevathan it sounds like this degree would be a very versatile degree and one in which if you wanted to go on into advanced practice you could do so at the appropriate doctorate level, is that correct?

Dr. Enna Trevathan: That is correct. Sometimes students decide later on they may not want a doctorate degree, if they want a doctorate degree this is great, because I’ve used my masters in Nursing Science and everything was accepted for me to pursue my doctorate degree. Sometimes students decide they don’t want a doctorate degree, but they may want a post master’s certificate. This is where they usually specialize, they would get their masters and they decide you know what I’m really interested on becoming a specialist in education or becoming a specialist in chronic care management. And they could do an additional post masters certificate that gives them the additional knowledge and the skills that they need to focus in whatever area that they decide to go. But the generalist degree is the best degree to help you to get where you need to go. Because if you become a CNS and later on you decide well I don’t want to be a CNS any longer than you will be short of some classes in leadership, and you may have to go back to school and take some additional classes.

Staci Bell: Thank you so much and then we have time for just one final question. Person wants to know which states do not allow for online programs. And that is a great question, it’s also one I think causes a lot of confusion because it’s not that there’s any states where your degree would not be recognized that’s not what that, there’s state restrictions, it’s not about the recognition of the degree it’s about when you’re residing in a few select states, you are not eligible to be enrolled in particular online programs. So it comes down to a state restriction. So if you reside in the state of Wisconsin, Maryland, Alabama, Arkansas or Iowa, unfortunately you would not be eligible to apply for this program. And again that would be due to state restriction. If you are either living in that state or planning to reside in that state during your time as a student you would definitely want to speak to one of us, one of the enrollment advisors and we could provide you with the information as far as where to go to find out more information on that restriction.

Ok so I think that concludes our question and answers session, again my name is Staci Bell and of course joined today with Pamela Rocha your other enrollment advisor. You can contact either one of us at the following numbers provided. I want to thank everyone for their time and we’ll of course be following up with each and every one of you very shortly have a wonderful day.

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